Coronavirus: Leading ex-nurse says pandemic would be ‘useful’ as it could clear bed blocking as people 'taken out of system' by killing off old patients
A coronavirus pandemic could be “quite useful” in clearing bed blocking in hospitals by killing off patients, a former Scottish Government adviser and nursing chief has claimed, while admitting her remarks would be seen as "horrific". Professor June Andrews said Covid-19 could help hospitals with delayed discharges because these people would be “taken out of the system”.
Professor June Andrews said Covid-19 could help hospitals with delayed discharges because these people would be “taken out of the system”.
The former director of the Scottish government’s Centre for Change and Innovation acknowledged the controversial tone of her comments but said they represented the kind of strategic view needed to deal with the circumstances. Prof Andrews later said she had intended her remarks to be ironic.
Speaking at a Scottish Parliament audit committee, she said: “As a nurse my job is to be kind, but I also rip off sticking plasters, so sometimes it seems unkind what you have to say.
“If you’re on the board of a care home company a pandemic is one of the things you think about as a potential damage to your business because of the number of older people it is going to take out the system.
“Curiously, ripping off the sticking plaster, in that hospital I’m thinking about that has 92 delayed discharges, a pandemic would be quite useful because then your hospital would work because these people would be taken out of the system.
“Now that sounds like a horrific thing to say, but it is the case that somehow or other we have put people in the wrong places by not having the kind of strategic views we should have.”
Prof Andrews, who is an adviser to the Dementia Services Development Trust, said she had since been targeted by people online for her comments.
“The one thing I had learned from this is I should never use irony,” she said.
“I was asking the question about what the politicians were expecting to happen; do they just expect the old people to disappear.”
The former director of the Scottish government’s Centre for Change and Innovation acknowledged the controversial tone of her comments but said they represented the kind of strategic view needed to deal with the circumstances. Prof Andrews later said she had intended her remarks to be ironic.
Speaking at a Scottish Parliament audit committee, she said: “As a nurse my job is to be kind, but I also rip off sticking plasters, so sometimes it seems unkind what you have to say.
“If you’re on the board of a care home company a pandemic is one of the things you think about as a potential damage to your business because of the number of older people it is going to take out the system.
“Curiously, ripping off the sticking plaster, in that hospital I’m thinking about that has 92 delayed discharges, a pandemic would be quite useful because then your hospital would work because these people would be taken out of the system.
“Now that sounds like a horrific thing to say, but it is the case that somehow or other we have put people in the wrong places by not having the kind of strategic views we should have.”
Prof Andrews, who is an adviser to the Dementia Services Development Trust, said she had since been targeted by people online for her comments.
“The one thing I had learned from this is I should never use irony,” she said.
“I was asking the question about what the politicians were expecting to happen; do they just expect the old people to disappear.”
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